tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post115337861610838786..comments2023-11-02T22:32:05.579+08:00Comments on 國金外望全集(連comments)。方卓如: 一手交一手方卓如http://www.blogger.com/profile/00247999836181864886noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1170855413701706752007-02-07T21:36:00.000+08:002007-02-07T21:36:00.000+08:00You have an outstanding good and well structured s...You have an outstanding good and well structured site. I enjoyed browsing through it <A HREF="http://www.cheap-xenical-0.info/Mercedes.html" REL="nofollow">»</A> <A HREF="http://www.nissan-skyline-video.info" REL="nofollow">»</A> <A HREF="http://www.airfresheners2.info/airpurifierfan.html" REL="nofollow">»</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1154081162748032212006-07-28T18:06:00.000+08:002006-07-28T18:06:00.000+08:00再者話提起普選就打冷震,小弟只覺得惺惺作態!再者話提起普選就打冷震,小弟只覺得惺惺作態!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1154080918160173652006-07-28T18:01:00.000+08:002006-07-28T18:01:00.000+08:00呢位兄台亦唔使借位插泛民,小弟既不支持邊個icon 或者政黨,亦唔覺得有人永遠都對,更唔信有邊個制度...呢位兄台亦唔使借位插泛民,小弟既不支持邊個icon 或者政黨,亦唔覺得有人永遠都對,更唔信有邊個制度萬能,可以解決所有問題…<BR/><BR/>上面大家列舉既"民主非萬能例子"唔通冇普選繼續委任制就會自動解決?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153928231118082872006-07-26T23:37:00.000+08:002006-07-26T23:37:00.000+08:00「如果批評者只須要指出問題所在,沒有責任提出解決方法,咁極其量只可算是個不負責任既批評者。可以無需理...「如果批評者只須要指出問題所在,沒有責任提出解決方法,咁極其量只可算是個不負責任既批評者。可以無需理會更不屑與之討論。 」<BR/><BR/>好少人會鬧泛民鬧得咁應,咁狠.兄台,好嘢!!我支持你.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153921528964292682006-07-26T21:45:00.000+08:002006-07-26T21:45:00.000+08:00癲狗, 娘心, 抬棺材代表真理, 所以提起普選我就打冷震癲狗, 娘心, 抬棺材代表真理, 所以提起普選我就打冷震Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153909791027086342006-07-26T18:29:00.000+08:002006-07-26T18:29:00.000+08:00"樓上的,冇與趣同你拗。有本事,同毓民去拗。 "毓民代表黑社會定係真理代言人?同佢拗,拗贏左 証明乜..."樓上的,冇與趣同你拗。有本事,同毓民去拗。 "<BR/><BR/><BR/>毓民代表黑社會定係真理代言人?同佢拗,拗贏左 証明乜野呀?<BR/><BR/>香港就係太多呢D icon, 亞乜水係人民喉舌,亞乜水講就啱,亞乜水係香港良心,所以要幫佢揸住把風扇上街,撐佢!<BR/><BR/>開口埋口quote 亞乜水講過乜幾時可以有獨立思考呢?<BR/><BR/>再者"客觀持平" 本身就係一個主觀立場。如果批評者只須要指出問題所在,沒有責任提出解決方法,咁極其量只可算是個不負責任既批評者。可以無需理會更不屑與之討論。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153906334157031422006-07-26T17:32:00.000+08:002006-07-26T17:32:00.000+08:00有一個疑問,在小弟心中,長期不解,今日終於豁然明白。民主普選,雖然不是毒藥,但亦不見得是靈丹妙藥。何...有一個疑問,在小弟心中,長期不解,今日終於豁然明白。<BR/><BR/>民主普選,雖然不是毒藥,但亦不見得是靈丹妙藥。何以泛民各方,對普選如此執著,如此堅持。<BR/><BR/>小弟今天終於有了答案。<BR/><BR/>原本在支持者心中,普選是一種信仰。既然是信仰,當然不需要任何理由。<BR/><BR/>和世間一切宗教一樣,它的「存在」,便是原因,便是道理,不需要任何解釋。<BR/><BR/>「信者自信,不信者自不信。」這句話,無論是對宗教或普選,同樣適用。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153895946727401122006-07-26T14:39:00.000+08:002006-07-26T14:39:00.000+08:00「我相信"批評"是較"被批評"容易得多」對,對,對。用係泛民身上,最貼切不過。唔怪得咁多人想做泛民,...「我相信"批評"是較"被批評"容易得多」<BR/><BR/>對,對,對。用係泛民身上,最貼切不過。唔怪得咁多人想做泛民,因為只雖要「批評」,真係好容易做。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153895457727196802006-07-26T14:30:00.000+08:002006-07-26T14:30:00.000+08:00樓上的,冇與趣同你拗。有本事,同毓民去拗。樓上的,冇與趣同你拗。有本事,同毓民去拗。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153893832814069932006-07-26T14:03:00.000+08:002006-07-26T14:03:00.000+08:00如果認為"批評者沒有責任提出解決方法", 我想信"批評"是較"被批評"容易得多 ---- every...如果認為"批評者沒有責任提出解決方法", 我想信"批評"是較"被批評"容易得多 ---- everything should have pros and cons! <BR/><BR/>學習 "批評" 及 "被批評" 是令我們得以進步的其中一種方法.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153893368101037642006-07-26T13:56:00.000+08:002006-07-26T13:56:00.000+08:00唉,同泛民講「客觀持平」,簡直浪費時間。對泛民而言,民主直選,已是一種宗教,一個圖騰,如何能有客觀,...唉,同泛民講「客觀持平」,簡直浪費時間。對泛民而言,民主直選,已是一種宗教,一個圖騰,如何能有客觀,如何能會持平。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153892499490667682006-07-26T13:41:00.000+08:002006-07-26T13:41:00.000+08:00上文「挑剔」誤植「排剔」,合此更正。上文「挑剔」誤植「排剔」,合此更正。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153888368407158052006-07-26T12:32:00.000+08:002006-07-26T12:32:00.000+08:00有不少甚有份量的評論員(包括毓民)都說「批評者的責任,只須要指出問題所在,沒有責任提出解決方法。提出...有不少甚有份量的評論員(包括毓民)都說「批評者的責任,只須要指出問題所在,沒有責任提出解決方法。提出解決方法,是被批評者的責任。」樓上仁兄冇聽過咩?<BR/><BR/>現在有人提出民主普選的不足,亦能舉出如台灣,菲律賓等不少國家為佐證。至於解決的道,自應由支持民主普選者提出,豈應由批評者提出。如樓上匿名君能提出解決普選不足之良方,煩請相告台灣與菲律賓等國人民,重酬。 <BR/><BR/>既然世界上冇任何萬能之制度或方法,香港現在的制度,清廉而有效率,比台灣和菲律賓等實行民主的地方,優勝百倍,為何泛民卻對香港現行政體,百般排剔?<BR/><BR/>對自已所喜的政制,百般寛容,對其弊端,視而不見。對自已所不喜愛的政制,便百般排剔。這難道是客觀持平的態度嗎?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153881119518823332006-07-26T10:31:00.000+08:002006-07-26T10:31:00.000+08:00辯證一件事有多個方法,最常用就是邊緣化對方論點,找個exception 作例對方的立論就不能成立。所...辯證一件事有多個方法,最常用就是邊緣化對方論點,找個exception 作例對方的立論就不能成立。所以問口埋口就用 "萬能" "絕對" "永遠" 等字就等於專業自殺。當年萬試萬靈既救命仙丹盤尼西林,今日都 out 啦, <BR/><BR/>不過就算你唔專業自殺,對手都會迫你埋牆,話你有咁既暗示,於是就列舉反証,判你死刑。 個個都知冇野係萬能,絕對,所以最醒目就梗係話,冇絕對架,要睇情況,不能一概而論,所以要幾時轉軑就幾時轉,有晒Background.<BR/><BR/>醒 !<BR/><BR/>p.s. 小弟絕對相信民主永遠不是萬能,各位人人君子如有見過有任何萬能之制度或方法,煩請相告,重酬。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153852100668257272006-07-26T02:28:00.000+08:002006-07-26T02:28:00.000+08:00經過這場大辯論,民主萬能論,可以体矣。民主,已經取代宗教,成為現代人的「鴉片」。就如在台灣,年年都是...經過這場大辯論,民主萬能論,可以体矣。<BR/><BR/>民主,已經取代宗教,成為現代人的「鴉片」。<BR/><BR/>就如在台灣,年年都是選舉,台灣人便活在選舉亢奮中,最終被政客所操控,族群撕裂,藍綠對立,方向迷失,向下沈淪。<BR/><BR/>現代人已把選舉,視為圖騰。大勢如此,夫復何言。唯有自求多福,祈望台灣之劫,不會降臨香江,則萬幸矣。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153831137192701772006-07-25T20:38:00.000+08:002006-07-25T20:38:00.000+08:00今日(星期二)信報第十二頁,刊有鄭赤琰(前中文大學政治系主任)的文章《倒扁聲浪大,為何扁未倒》。文章...今日(星期二)信報第十二頁,刊有鄭赤琰(前中文大學政治系主任)的文章《倒扁聲浪大,為何扁未倒》。文章末段有這一句話:「結果是多少國家,政府,領袖借民主殘民以自肥」。大家如把鄭文細看,當有體會。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153824129312188332006-07-25T18:42:00.000+08:002006-07-25T18:42:00.000+08:00哈哈,當初我也覺得奇怪,點解 Maya 會如此魯莽,批評「中豬」的網名,心想「中豬」和 Ebin, ...哈哈,當初我也覺得奇怪,點解 Maya 會如此魯莽,批評「中豬」的網名,心想「中豬」和 Ebin, 一定會以此為借口,對Maya 狂攻。<BR/><BR/>估唔到原來係個「局」,用來反駁「中豬」的 Will you feel shame after you made this comment? 批評。如此佈局,的確精奇,佩服。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153822505439873052006-07-25T18:15:00.000+08:002006-07-25T18:15:00.000+08:00To Mr. Anonymous above:Thanks for the kind words a...To Mr. Anonymous above:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the kind words about my postings, “Maya 有理有節的反駁和嚴密的邏輯論證.” <BR/><BR/>What a relief it is to see that 中豬 and Ebin proposed to put an end to the debate. It saves me a lot of time writing up rebuttals to their comments and arguments. If my postings can help anyone to take a closer and harder look at democracy and its faults and limitations, I will have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153821220041184192006-07-25T17:53:00.000+08:002006-07-25T17:53:00.000+08:00精彩,精彩。雖然各方鳴金收兵,不能再看 Maya 有理有節的反駁和嚴密的邏輯論證,但小弟已獲益良多,...精彩,精彩。雖然各方鳴金收兵,不能再看 Maya 有理有節的反駁和嚴密的邏輯論證,但小弟已獲益良多,對民主直選的爭論,有了深一層的了解。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153820121463250732006-07-25T17:35:00.000+08:002006-07-25T17:35:00.000+08:00It is great to hear that both 中豬 and Ebin see it f...It is great to hear that both 中豬 and Ebin see it fit to stop the discussion.<BR/><BR/>Hope we all learn something from these exchanges.<BR/><BR/>Have a nice day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153817752585799962006-07-25T16:55:00.000+08:002006-07-25T16:55:00.000+08:00This response is to Mr.中豬. 中豬 said:“Frankly, I do ...This response is to Mr.中豬. <BR/><BR/>中豬 said:“Frankly, I do not know who you are and where are you, however, I know you are a "SELFISH" one.”<BR/><BR/>Using the exact words used by Mr. 中豬 yesterday, my response is:“Will you feel shame after you made this comment?”<BR/><BR/>I appreciate Mr. 中豬's explanation of why he chose this blogger name. (Whether he is telling the truth, to be honest, only GodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153814782104804652006-07-25T16:06:00.000+08:002006-07-25T16:06:00.000+08:00借 hhh 的句子一用:中豬, Ebin 兩位,You take the discussion to...借 hhh 的句子一用:<BR/><BR/>中豬, Ebin 兩位,<BR/><BR/>You take the discussion too personal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153809962370119002006-07-25T14:46:00.000+08:002006-07-25T14:46:00.000+08:00I have learnt a lot from the discussions and see t...I have learnt a lot from the discussions and see the pros/cons, merits and demerits of both sides which I have not think of, which fruitful for me to deciding on issues like "whether to join the rally for 1 July", etc.<BR/><BR/>My understanding on history is that, politicans/country leaders make decision on a issue with specific target. Yet, often turn out that the results are out of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153806555467340752006-07-25T13:49:00.000+08:002006-07-25T13:49:00.000+08:00It looks like I have got two lengthy responses fro...It looks like I have got two lengthy responses from Ebin and 中豬. I do not have time at the moment to respond to a full list of questions, so I have to wait and will do it some time later today. <BR/><BR/>(By the way, it looks like this time round, Ebin does not mind debating with the writer of "KungFu Tea" of the Oriental Daily, and he does not see the need to offer an apology to 方卓如 anymore. OddAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12621369.post-1153776425716541422006-07-25T05:27:00.000+08:002006-07-25T05:27:00.000+08:00Maya 兄有心人也,提醒我等,不要重蹈台灣覆轍,誤以為台灣有了民主選舉,便諸事大吉,安枕無憂,從此...Maya 兄有心人也,提醒我等,不要重蹈台灣覆轍,誤以為台灣有了民主選舉,便諸事大吉,安枕無憂,從此台灣便能自動「向上提昇」(李遠哲語)。<BR/><BR/>如今空回首,悔恨當日過於樂觀,對民主及民進黨,寄望過深,致使台灣空轉數載,現在荊棘滿途,連前路也找不到。<BR/><BR/>對民主選舉盲目寄予厚望者,當以台灣為戒。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com